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Nick has been found alive in California. According to LE he has legally changed his name. KCSO has closed the case.

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Re: Searching for Nicholas - Discussion 2009 - Jun thru...

Postby Cheri on Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:56 pm

Envision wrote:The events, the firings, the disappearance, are all too close to be a coincidence IMO.


Plus the resignation, the one thing Christine has remained silent about. It does make you wonder...
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Re: Searching for Nicholas - Discussion 2009 - Jun thru...

Postby Jackson on Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:58 pm

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October 2007: Violating Elder Protocol. Members were told that these men violated elder protocol by discussing the proposed by-laws with the church lawyer without the required permission. Additionally, these men did not have and that have a proper respect (an “unhealthy distrust”) for their leaders. Elder protocol was also violated when one of these men allowed one member to see the confidential proposed new bylaws so as to ask for his insight on the proposed changes. (Conversations with various elders, the 145 page document)

from http://prayingheart.wordpress.com/2008/ ... s/#more-66

Maybe you are referring to the bolded (by me) text above - the beginning of the dust-up when bylaw changes were being circulated, without permission, before their publication. In this case, it doesn't appear to appear to be NF, as he was not an "elder." IMO it's possible Nicholas was involved in another, unknown context, but the person referenced above is most likely one of the fired elders. Where is the 145-page document? I doubt that will ever be seen outside of MHC upper ranks.

the sequence of events, without doubt, are too coincidental.... The church dust-ups, the firings, the disappearance............ the "secret life" is a convenient red herring. How better to titillate than conjuring up a creative sex life for NF? IMHO of course
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Re: Searching for Nicholas - Discussion 2009 - Jun thru...

Postby Envision on Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:32 am

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October 2007: Violating Elder Protocol. Members were told that these men violated elder protocol by discussing the proposed by-laws with the church lawyer without the required permission. Additionally, these men did not have and that have a proper respect (an “unhealthy distrust”) for their leaders. Elder protocol was also violated when one of these men allowed one member to see the confidential proposed new bylaws so as to ask for his insight on the proposed changes. (Conversations with various elders, the 145 page document)

from http://prayingheart.wordpress.com/2008/ ... s/#more-66

Maybe you are referring to the bolded (by me) text above - the beginning of the dust-up when bylaw changes were being circulated, without permission, before their publication. In this case, it doesn't appear to appear to be NF, as he was not an "elder." IMO it's possible Nicholas was involved in another, unknown context, but the person referenced above is most likely one of the fired elders. Where is the 145-page document? I doubt that will ever be seen outside of MHC upper ranks.

the sequence of events, without doubt, are too coincidental.... The church dust-ups, the firings, the disappearance............ the "secret life" is a convenient red herring. How better to titillate than conjuring up a creative sex life for NF? IMHO of course

It said "one member" which I took for "could have been anyone", ie: Nick. No matter who or what they meant, I am with you...the secret life is just fabricated fodder.
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The waking up is the hardest part
She takes you in with your crying eyes
Then all at once you have to say goodbye
Wondering could you stay, my love?
No she can't, 'cause she's gone, gone, gone....

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Re: Searching for Nicholas - Discussion 2009 - Jun thru...

Postby Jackson on Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:09 pm

Envision wrote:It said "one member" which I took for "could have been anyone", ie: Nick. No matter who or what they meant, I am with you...the secret life is just fabricated fodder.


This is really interesting, Envision. I hadn't thought of that, or I guess I assumed it was an elder. Maybe it was Nicholas?
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Re: Searching for Nicholas - Discussion 2009 - Jun thru...

Postby Cheri on Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:28 pm

Have we ever discussed the possibility of an accident and subsequent coverup?
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Re: Searching for Nicholas - Discussion 2009 - Jun thru...

Postby Envision on Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:45 pm

I think we started to on IS and CW came in and shut the forum down.
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Re: Searching for Nicholas - Discussion 2009 - Jun thru...

Postby Cheri on Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:47 pm

It might be worth exploring.
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Re: Searching for Nicholas - Discussion 2009 - Jun thru...

Postby Cury-us Coyote on Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:05 pm

King County distributes cold case cards to prisons
(includes video and pictures)
It isn't your typical deck of cards. It features the unsolved homicides and missing persons cases that are decades old.
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The 4,000 decks will be distributed to inmates at local jails and prison.


http://www.nwcn.com/statenews/washingto ... 1b582.html
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Re: Searching for Nicholas - Discussion 2009 - Jun thru...

Postby Cury-us Coyote on Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:01 pm

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Who is the King of Spades? TIA
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Re: Searching for Nicholas - Discussion 2009 - Jun thru...

Postby Cheri on Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:28 pm

They only give these decks out to prisoners?
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Re: Searching for Nicholas - Discussion 2009 - Jun thru...

Postby Cury-us Coyote on Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:35 pm

Cheri wrote:They only give these decks out to prisoners?


Apparently (according to Q13 reports), Crime Stoppers of Puget Sound shared costs and will distribute next to local Casinos.
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Re: Searching for Nicholas - Discussion 2009 - Jun thru...

Postby Cheri on Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:22 pm

Cury-us Coyote wrote:
Apparently (according to Q13 reports), Crime Stoppers of Puget Sound shared costs and will distribute next to local Casinos.
jmo


The other LE agencies that have done this have also only (from what I remember) distributed them in prisons as well. I was just wondering why. They're a good idea and seems like they could be handed out other places. Part of an awareness campaign to the general public or something along those lines maybe.
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Re: Searching for Nicholas - Discussion 2009 - Jun thru...

Postby Cury-us Coyote on Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:29 pm

Crime Stoppers Tool Brings New Hope to King County Cold Cases
(includes video)

The King County Sheriff's Office, in partnership with Crime Stoppers of Puget Sound, have found a new way: cold case cards; 52 of them. Each one holds a heartbreaking story waiting for answers.

"People aren't always aware of what's going on," explains Gayle Behrend. She and her husband Denny are on the Crime Stoppers board and own Lacey O'Malley Bail Bonds in Seattle. They footed half the bill to make those cold case cards happen and they know it's money well spent.
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Crime Stoppers will be handing out their cold case cards to inmates first, but they would like to expand - maybe to casinos next. If you think you can help don't hesitate to call. Remember: it's anonymous and you could earn a $1,000 reward.


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Re: Searching for Nicholas - Discussion 2009 - Jun thru...

Postby Envision on Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:39 pm

Cury-us Coyote wrote:Image


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YIKES!! I wonder how much that card is worth?
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Wondering could you stay, my love?
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Re: Searching for Nicholas - Discussion 2009 - Jun thru...

Postby Cury-us Coyote on Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:59 pm

Envision wrote:YIKES!! I wonder how much that card is worth?


Cold-case playing cards help put a name to a victim's face

Prisoners with time on their hands and guilt on their consciences were supposed to help solve the 52 cases featured in the Minnesota "cold case" playing cards.

Instead, a man browsing the cards on the Internet recognized a neighbor girl who disappeared in 1982, and that, along with an identification process that didn't exist then, helped identify Deana Patnode as a murder victim 26 years after she disappeared.


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